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Facebook Pregnancy Announcements, Part Deux

February 17, 2011

Not surprisingly, there were some differing opinions on yesterday’s post. I’m just sorry I was stuck in meetings most of the day and was forced to miss most of it, but some of you had the best stories.

I felt I couldn’t just leave it at that and thus have decided to do a follow-up Q&A session.

Some of these are questions from the comments, some from other blogs and some I’ve just completely made up assuming someone has asked them.

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Q: Did you know that you’re just a bitter, wretched shrew?

Oh why thank you–I’m so glad you noticed. I was worried I was being too subtle.

In my defense, that has nothing to do with infertility–I’ve always been this way. It’s kind of my thing–part of my charm. However, being infertile has certainly honed that side of me to the razor sharp edge you see today.

Don’t you find me infinitely endearing? …. Oh, never mind then.

Q: Shouldn’t you just be happy for your friends? They’d be happy for you.

I think Jerry Seinfeld said it best: “Well, I don’t know if I’m happy for them. I mean, I’m glad their happy, but frankly it doesn’t do anything for me.”

And really, these aren’t my good friends we’re talking about. We’re talking about people I haven’t spoken to in years; are just friends of friends; or are people I don’t even like. Such is the nature of Facebook.

If we really are good friends, I’d kind of expect not to find out from a picture of their pee stick. And then, I’ll be as happy as I can be for them, but I’ve gotta say, the longer this bullshit goes on, the harder it is to feel that way. And that’s just me being totally honest.

Besides it goes both ways. If they really are a good friend and I’m being happy for them, then they should understand that their joy is hard for me. Plus, they might never get the chance to be happy for me–and that’s the trouble with all this.

Q: How is it any different than saying “I just graduated from university” when someone who didn’t graduate reads it?

There is a world of difference. Not graduating from university (as an example) is ultimately a choice. No matter what obstacles are standing in their way, someone could conceivably correct that situation should their will and desire be strong enough. Not so with a condition such as infertility–I can’t make myself be fertile no matter how hard I work at it.

The equivalent would be more along the lines of “I’m so glad I have my health!” to someone who’s just found out they have cancer. (And yes, the World Health Organization recognizes infertility as a disease.)

Or as Stinky pointed out, someone who’s just lost their legs reading “Just went for a fabulous 10 mile run!” That would hurt, just like it hurts to read a pregnancy announcement. Right or wrong, that’s just the way it is.

Are we being too sensitive? Perhaps. But walk a few steps in these shoes and see if you still say that. Until you’ve been here, you can’t imagine how hard it is.

ETA comment from Fucking Infertility: Infertility (within the timeframe of typical fertile years – not in children or older people, of course) is undoubtedly a disability. You lack the ability to do something that is considered something everyone can do.

Q: Why don’t you just quit Facebook if it bothers you so much?

Two reasons:

a) Why should I have to? I’ve got just as much right to harvest your pumpkins; get invited to your shitty band CD release party; or watch you quote song lyrics in your attempt to appear angsty and deep as anyone else does.

b) I can’t quit. And I don’t mean that in a “I’m so addicted, I must have it” sort of way. I mean I work in marketing and PR and manage Facebook pages for companies. It’s how I (partially) get paid. And I need that money because I might have to pay for an IVF treatment or Chinese baby one day.

Q: Well you’re going to announce it on Facebook if you get pregnant.

I’m not sure I will. I’ve actually thought about this a lot. Of course I’m going to want to tell the world, but if I cause even one person to feel the way I do when I see a pregnancy announcement, I wouldn’t like that very much. If I did put it on Facebook, I feel like it would have to come with some kind of disclaimer: “After X years of trying, I’m finally pregnant, and I couldn’t be more grateful.”

Kind of how AL said she did it: “Husband and I are excited to announce we are expecting! Baby is due May 25, 2011! We are so blessed and thankful! And very happy to be in the second trimester.” I think any infertile could read between those lines.

Q: So then what should people do?

Nothing. They should just do what they were going to do because that’s how it works. I know they aren’t doing it to be hurtful, but that doesn’t stop it from hurting anyways. It sucks. It would be nice if people would be a tiny bit sensitive and not drone on incessantly about being pregnant, but that’s their choice. Just like it’s my choice to hide them.

Arohanui said it well: “No matter how, when, where or WTF? way people announce their pregnancies, it will always be painful to those of us who remain fertility challenged. But when we finally get our dreams answered we should be allowed to celebrate our joy without feeling constrained to respectful silence.”

Q: Well you really are just an angry cow aren’t you?

I realize that, but please don’t take anything I say too seriously (unless I’m actually being serious). Sarcasm is my constant companion (sometimes it gets me in trouble). It was all meant in good fun.

This isn’t a place for fertile bashing (although it might happen on occasion), this is a place where I can connect with other women experiencing the same things I am. Often our in-real-life friends (sometimes the ones we’re supposed to be so happy for) get tired of us going on and on about our appointments and treatments and drugs.

They’re tired of dealing with our drah-ma.

The sad truth is that, often, we’re all alone in this battle and going online is the best support we have.

I also like to laugh and I like to make other people laugh. So if any of my bitter vitriol makes even one woman smile and think “fuck yeah, I feel exactly the same way”, well then I’m happy.

Q: Why do you swear so fucking much?

Because I do. I think it’s funny.

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Tomorrow: 10 ways to announce you’re infertile on Facebook… because I just had to after you’ve gotten the ball already rolling.

50 Comments leave one →
  1. February 17, 2011 7:50 am

    Love it.
    So well said and perfectly put.
    Can’t wait for tomorrows post.

  2. February 17, 2011 8:00 am

    LOVE IT. And so true. I’ve debated the dreaded facebook announcement in my head for the day that pregancy/adoption does happen. And just like you said, I don’t want to make somebody else who has gone through what we have feel that same pain and jealousy.

    Can’t wait for tomorrow!

  3. Andrea permalink
    February 17, 2011 8:05 am

    Be happy because “fuck yeah, I feel exactly the same way.”

  4. February 17, 2011 8:28 am

    I second the “fuck yeah!”
    cynicism is our friend. we need to fucking embrace it.

  5. February 17, 2011 9:03 am

    I third the “fuck yeah!”…. Love the sarcasm!!!! I couldn’t have written those answers any better…. Sometimes its like us IFers are mind-readers…. as far as other IFers are concerned anyways. :-)

  6. February 17, 2011 9:06 am

    I’ll third it :D You bitter wretched shrew *winks.
    I have some RL friends I met through IF and we have called ourselves ‘the coven’ we are bitter shrivelled husks of women LoL
    Like you said it’s not about ‘fertile bashing’, it’s about how you/we feel, we are after all human (well I am I think… but only just).
    Eloquent and funny again. PS the swearing adds a whole new level of genius ;)

  7. February 17, 2011 9:07 am

    OK I’ll fourth it LoL x

  8. Miela permalink
    February 17, 2011 9:24 am

    I loved the first post and this one is even better! I have hidden around 12 people on my FB wall, because I can just not stand the pregnancy over sharing.

    One “friend” with a baby decor shop even invited me to events and she send me “new stock” updates. I told her on her FB wall, to please remove me from her list, since I don’t have a baby, and just had my second miscarriage. That shut her up.

    Looking forward to: “10 ways to announce you’re infertile on Facebook” :)

  9. Nikki permalink
    February 17, 2011 10:03 am

    What I got from yesterday’s post is how people that are infertile struggle in silence. For me I realize it is irrational to cry when I see a friend post that she is pregnant and I know I am supposed to feel happy for them but yet I feel sad for myself. I struggle with different things when it comes to infertility, the doctor visits, the 2ww every month, the start of my period where I feel so sad I end up shedding tears, the meds, the tests and the list goes on. I don’t post all of it on FB because I know people don’t really want to hear it even though I would love some support during these tough times. They want to share and want us to be happy for their good fortune but after struggling for a year and a half it is tough to be happy for people when they don’t seem concerned with what I am going through.

  10. February 17, 2011 10:04 am

    As my husband says, “either you blow off steam or you blow off a head. you choose.”

  11. Nikki permalink
    February 17, 2011 10:05 am

    I don’t mind the swearing. :-)

  12. Sar permalink
    February 17, 2011 10:08 am

    You are NOT an angry cow!!! I dug your view on the facebook announcements. I just need to hear a bit of gratitude from the fertiles when they’re announcing–that’s all :O

  13. February 17, 2011 10:14 am

    hahahahahaha! So funny and so very true! Thanks for both posts.

  14. February 17, 2011 10:19 am

    This was awesome. Fucking. Awesome. I’m so happy to have found your blog. Your sarcasm is refreshing. :)

  15. February 17, 2011 10:22 am

    Bwahahahaha . . . thank you! This is exactly how I feel! Two close friends recently announced their pregnancies, and they were both apprehensive knowing that I had a miscarriage around the time they found out they were pregnant. I’m super happy for them, but it doesn’t stop the “kicked in the gut” and heart-wrenching sadness I feel when I think about how they will in all likelihood walk out of the hospital on a few months with healthy babies (I wouldn’t hope for anything less for them) and mine didn’t make it.

  16. February 17, 2011 10:25 am

    i just think you’re fabulous.

  17. February 17, 2011 10:38 am

    love this! oh and i swear a lot too… and i don’t fucking care who has a problem w/ it :-)

  18. February 17, 2011 11:21 am

    I have been annoyed over this bullshit for weeks, as a long time infertile recently pregnant lady who REFUSES to announce on facebook. I realize (after much ranting) that it’s all a matter of personal taste, but I feel like it’s pandering for congratulations from random people you never talk to, and could potentially be hurting, by announcing it to the fucking world. Everyone I wanted to tell I called or emailed individually. I don’t need to bask in shared joy with some girl I haven’t spoken to since high school. Fin.

    • February 17, 2011 12:29 pm

      Of course it’s pandering–and we all do it right? Facebook is really just for showing off isn’t it?

  19. February 17, 2011 12:13 pm

    I’ve really enjoyed both these posts and the comment conversations they generated. I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s list of how to announce you’re infertile on facebook. :-)

  20. February 17, 2011 12:17 pm

    I think my FB “friends” count is a couple hundred but so many of those dumb bastards are hidden, I usually miss the announcements and fetus-to-fruit ratio.

    My real FB friends may be tired of hearing me talk about my uterus and telling the Catholic church to wake the fuck up, but they are too good to tell me. Or I am, in fact, hidden.

  21. February 17, 2011 12:46 pm

    fuck yeah, I’m with you.

  22. February 17, 2011 1:51 pm

    OMG- some people are so touchy…I thought the post was wonderful…and seriously, just because you’re venting about your “feelings” doesn’t mean they have to agree…you’re not an angry bitter cow…you’re just human…

    I think your post was wonderful and this one tops it! And the swearing…I agree…it ‘s fuckin’ funny

  23. February 17, 2011 2:00 pm

    Ah, I have so much to say on these last two posts, but I am insaneballs busy at work and therefore unmotivated to go deal with more words after said busy days, so I will keep it short and sweet: you are awesome, and one of my favorite bitter, angry cows.

    • February 17, 2011 2:51 pm

      C just said exactly what I was going to say, about wanting to respond and not having time. Thank you for speaking and swearing for all of us as we endure this lonely suckfest together. xoxox

  24. February 17, 2011 3:31 pm

    Nice. I was writing you a suggestion for tomorrow’s topic, but it got so ridiculously long I couldn’t possibly post it here in your comments. I stuck it in on my blog instead http://bit.ly/fZfJVz

  25. February 17, 2011 4:43 pm

    Love, love, love it.

    I miscarried @ six weeks (after 7 years of trying on our own and IVF) on the day my SIL had her first ultrasound of a healthy baby. Cue the hysterics. My mom, as wonderful and supportive as she is actually told me one time when I was crying about the bitter unfairness of it all, “You need to be happy for your brother”.

    Um, telling me I should be happy because THEY are happy is like me telling my brother and SIL that they should be sad because I”M sad.

    Grrrrr.

  26. February 17, 2011 5:04 pm

    My husband wanted to put our embryo pics on Facebook and call them “baby album”. I told him to wait until we had a confirmed pregnancy, so the whole world wouldn’t know we failed. Which is good, since fail we did.

    But if we ever get a keeper, that’s how we’re doing it. Infertiles will know our journey (though we’re fairly open already) and fertiles will just think we’re weirdos.

  27. Michelle permalink
    February 17, 2011 6:04 pm

    I think the take-home message, is that there are ways to make such and announcement tastefully and sensitively. Wait a few months, no pee stick pictures or silly gimicks, tell close friends and family personally first, and simply let the news speak for itself. And know that if the news is bittersweet (or even just plain bitter) to some it is not something to take personally.

  28. February 17, 2011 7:20 pm

    Can’t WAIT for tomorrow’s post!!! : )

  29. February 17, 2011 7:28 pm

    I feel so relieved I am not alone in my joy at saying the word FUCK. cause it does sound funnier when you say it. I just pee’d myself laughing at these. Maybe you need to do a post about how IVF creates frakenbabies some poor deluded FUCKING bitch said to her friend. Read about on STFU fertiles blog. Actually when i said the f word then it sounded less funny and more homicidal.

  30. February 17, 2011 7:28 pm

    Loved both these posts — yesterday’s was laugh out loud funny, especially with that priceless, I mean fucking awesome picture!

    As to the whole “be happy for them” stuff, why do we have to? Things suck sometimes, and we have to suck it up and deal with things as we can — which may mean hiding someone on FB, ranting, cursing, blogging, doing whatever we have to do to make it through — the same way as everyone else.

  31. February 17, 2011 7:55 pm

    *terrorist fist jab of solidarity*

    Some days I think I won’t mention I even had a kid until s/he’s heading off to college. I don’t want to jinx it by sharing the news too soon, you know?

    • February 17, 2011 8:51 pm

      Rather than wearing the infertility red thread I am now going to have a picture of me standing with my arms crossed and a bunch of IF fanatics in the background. Terrorist fist jab of solidarity ha ha ha

  32. February 17, 2011 8:06 pm

    I love them all but the, why can you be happy for them, they’d be happy for you, is the best!! Haven’t they heard not to judge anyone until you’ve walked in their shoes? I also believe if they were your friends, they’d realize to be gleefully happy for them is impossible due to the pain and sadness you feel. however, it was said right that you are happy that they are happy. That is the best we can do sometimes. …

  33. LetThereBeSims permalink
    February 17, 2011 10:35 pm

    I am SO happy that I quit Facebook. This is great validation :)

  34. February 17, 2011 10:37 pm

    Everything I want to say about how awesome your blog and these posts are has already been said.. just so happy that I don’t need to feel guilty anymore about my anger/tears/jealousy when I see those FUCKING FB announcements – I’m not the only one feeling that way.. yup, swearing definitely IS required!

  35. February 18, 2011 12:28 am

    I did not announce on FB that I was pregnant for two reasons. I didn’t want to hurt anyone who may be experiencing infertility and I didn’t want to deal with the lame-ass advice I was sure to get from people. 98% of my “friends” didn’t know I was pregnant until I had posted some photos of my kid on my profile page.

    Personally, I love the swearing :)

  36. February 18, 2011 8:16 am

    Oh, now I remember what I wanted to say about this post. In terms of whether or not to announce a pregnancy on Facebook, as an infertile wishing to not hurt other infertiles, I actually think the refusal to announce has a certain attention-whorish quality to it. Eventually the news will come out, and then everyone will be all, “You sneaky sneak of a devil! I KNEW something was up! OMG, now retroactively fill us in on it all, I can’t believe you kept it a secret, SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!” I think something like the announcement you mentioned – that any infertile worth her salt would see right through, and that is not gloating nor complaining nor obnoxious in any way, really – is the way to go.

  37. February 18, 2011 9:07 am

    Wow!
    Isn’t it crazy how something like IF can make people think exactly alike!!!

    People don’t understand how difficult it is to be happy for other people – of course, close friends are different…but random people on facebook…. sorry…
    It would be different if they showed some sort of realization of how blessed and lucky they are…to understand that just falling pregnant is not a given and to do so is truly something to be grateful for!

    I also totally feel the same way about the pregnancy tests and sonogram photos….
    I have less than 30 friends on facebook – but I still wouldn’t do this… unless I made the photo’s restricted, so only family could see them. Because I do intend to show family, and close friends, my sonogram pics one day… but I don’t think every tom, dick, and harry needs to see them!

    I’m not even sure I am going to make any kind of facebook announcement… I have become quite anti-facebook… and feel that all the people who matter to me, will find out from me… in person (or via phone or email)… and if I don’t tell someone – it’s because it’s none of their business…

    On twitter, I hope to find a way to do that with sensitivity- however, all my TTC virtual-friends there know what it’s like, so I believe that they would be able to be happy for me, as I would be for them!! :)

    GREAT POST!!!
    And like I said yesterday – you’re not an angry, bitter, old shrew! (Maybe a little, but it’s justified and we love that part of you!!)

  38. unfertilized permalink
    February 18, 2011 4:23 pm

    I am totally with you about only doing a pregnancy announcement with a disclaimer. I’ve actually made the decision not to announce on facebook when the time comes (more for fear of something going wrong before the baby’s born and then having to spend months having strange, awkward conversations about it, than for any other reason). But, I am already crafting the status update that will go with the picture of me lying in the hospital after giving birth, with a little bundle of baby lying next to me. I’m thinking something like “Baby X is FINALLY here”. Then when people ask how long I was in labour, I’ll be like “Labour, ha! That was nothing compared to the years that came before.” Or something like that anyways!

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